Frequently Asked Questions about the PT 11 Nesting dinghy are listed below in alphabetical order. You can scroll down to find what you are looking for or try the search box to the right… If you have a question not found here, please email us. Our email info is on our website PTWATERCRAFT.COM or use INFO@ in front of that. Pardon the code but bad-b0ts just love to abuse email addresses.
Commissioned Builders? I have been contacted by a private boat builders offering their services. Contact me so we can locate a builder nearest to you. In 2013, we will establish a registry of sorts as an owner/builder resource and aim to create an interactive community. We have a builder center here.
Epoxy hazzards? Westsystem.com has lots of information including safety information. See this page for information about over-exposure.
Flotation vs storage space: The three compartments, one in the bow and the two in the stern, are completely sealed flotation and has equal value as foam flotation in this type of boat. Access ports to these compartments cause new rules to come into play, namely, equal foam flotation would then be required to replace the air. This is something we also had to calculate for the non nesting version of the PT 11 in order to satisfy the USCG safety guidelines.
There is a large storage aft of the mast step with ample space. Additional weight is not desirable in the nose of the boat.
Hiking out? We have, on occasion, hiked out on the railing of the PT11. This boat is not designed as a true racing dinghy, however. We want you to have fun sailing but we do not encourage racing expectations comparable to dinghies designed for racing. The PT 11 is designed first and foremost, as a tender, that rows and also sails exceptionally well.
HOURS TO BUILD? Based mainly on the log of 1 dedicated (hired) builder, 190- 220 hours, start to launch. In this case, he received the kit (including foils) on Dec. 5th and the owner was sailing the boat by Jan 15th. It should be clear that people have different work habits and available time. We would be happiest if no one rushed building their own boat, but rather, takes time to enjoy the project and admire their accomplishment.
Import into Canada? Because of NAFTA, Canadians will only pay 12% of the kit cost and delivery. Canadians who spend 48+ hours in the USA are allowed to return with $800/person of duty free merchandise. Not a bad deal when you do the math. (see ‘shipping international’ below for info on other countries)
MODIFYING the design; Boat building is a creative process. I have great faith in each person’s ability to creatively personalize their boats! It is also our hope that the building experience in itself serves the creative spirit well and the end result is a boat that makes the builder proud and happy. However; it is impossible to guarantee anything, if any part of the design and/or the described building method, is modified. We strongly discourage structural modification especially. We may not have a full time tech line but we do try to be available for customer concerns and expect builders to contact us with any ideas of deviating from the instructions..
Tough? Russell and all of our design consultants have a lot of experience with wood and epoxy boat building and a lot of thought and science went into making sure our boats are designed to be both light and strong. No boat is indestructible of course, but please consider carefully, any reinforcements and feel free to consult us if you have concerns based on your planned use of the boat. See above “modifying the design” and “re-enforcements”.
Nested dimensions of the PT Eleven? (taken directly from the 2011 prototype) Some articles have published erroneous numbers.
NESTED LENGTH: 6′
NESTED HEIGHT: 20″ at one end, 17″ at the other end.
Non-Nesting version? This is definitely in the plan for the near future as we have had quite a few requests for it. It will have a different interior lay out and probably be a bit lighter as well. UPDATE: The first prototype has launched August 2012! Russell now has to build one since the manual will be different. The interior layout of this boat is different than the nesting version. UPDATE: Kits should be available March 2013. Contact us now if you think this is the kit for you!
OUTBOARD? The PT 11 and Spear are rated for a maximum 2HP outboard. If you plan to use a small outboard, you would use bearing strips on the outside and clamp pads on the inside.
PLANS?There may never be plans for this boat as the focus for the next few years is on getting more of this line on the market. There are many many hours of expensive computer work to change the cut files into plans that are workable for even the experienced boat builder. We hope you will consider a kit. With a kit, you will end up with a better boat, much sooner. Additionally; In the process of making this boat the best it can be and still buildable even for amateurs, we use 5 different thicknesses of ply wood and some parts are cut in 3D, such as the stems. It brings to point why building the PT 11 from plans would not be practical. The boat is mostly from 6mm plywood but there are various parts from 12mm, 15mm, 18mm and 24mm. Nobody would want to buy a whole sheet of each of those just to use a small part of them. There would be some costly waste involved.
REEFING THE SAIL? and the shorter top batten to facilitate reefing?… An explanation from Sandy Goodall:
“No, the short batten version did not evolve in order to facilitate rolling / reefing the sail around the mast. We had started with a bigger sail, with a larger roach, and to support that roach we needed the support of the full length top batten. We then decided that we wanted a smaller, simpler (and cheaper to build) sail, which would better suit smaller users, but still be enough for bigger people to have fun. Having said that, the shorter battens DO enable you to roll the sail a couple of times around the mast, which is the only reefing option, but I think the sail is small enough that your 80 pounder is going to do just fine with the sail as is. The way to flatten the sail is to put some pre-bend in the mast, using the vang, for fresh winds. The current smaller, short batten sail works well for someone as small / light at Ashlyn (Russell’s wife), and also for me, at 240 lbs. So I think it’s a good compromise. Enjoy! Sandy Goodall”
Re-enforcing the boat? Any additional wood or glass than what is prescribed in the manual, serves to add weight and will not necessarily make the boat any stronger than designed. The exception would be additional glass on the bottom if it is expected that the dinghy will be typically dragged over rough landings rather than carried.
The transom, as designed, is strong. The rudder is a kick up rudder so there should be no chance of ripping off the transom of the boat with this rudder.
SHIPPING OVERSEAS? How Much to ship a kit overseas?
-As of 2013 we have reasonable shipping overseas Port to Port. We are looking into assigning distributors to handle multiple kits at once so that the end receiver would pay less for transport and thus offset importation costs. This would be ocean freight with delivery of 5 to 6 weeks. This price is no higher than quotes for trucking the kit across the USA. Those of you interested should look into the nearest major ports to your area and what is involved in clearing a kit into the country and getting it then to your door. Kit package dimensions and weights are posted on the website. UPDATE: UPS air freight looks like a viable option with costs of $500 to $700 door to door excluding clearance and import duties. Contact your local customs or department of commerce to learn about import calculations.
Side-decks on a larger version? Side decks are nice for racing dinghies but do not work with the nesting parameter. This is a compact nested package and side decks would add a lot of width, for one, as well as a lot of complexity.
Weight? The PT Eleven weighs 85 – 90LBS.